Curse

Navaros · Sep 21, 2005, 01:47 PM // 13:47

yesterday my team won HoH between 7-9 times in a row until the update made us restart and have to forfeit our winning streak whilst we were still undefeated

during these wins i acquired:

obviously these gold items are "not very good", to put it mildly.

winning HoH should not give such poor quality gold items. it should only give sigils, and gold items with mods that people actually want. obviously i can't sell these gold items for any reasonable amount of gold therefore as an HoH reward, they are very very disappointing

not only that, but out of winning at least 7 rounds, i only got 3 items. some members of my party got less than that. that is ridiculous. every party member should receive a (good!) item when they win HoH, every time. anything less is completely unfair and makes HoH not worth trying for

then there is the fame side of things, which is even worse. obviously winning HoH gives no added fame bonus at all. that's just wrong. winning HoH should give an automatic 50 fame bonus at least. maybe even a 100 fame bonus. winning HoH and only getting 6 fame for it is very ridiculous.

please fix all these HoH "rewards" so that they actually make HoH become something worth winning.

wsmcasey · Sep 21, 2005, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Thats funny.......I get better gold drops while chest farming.

Gustav Gloomp · Sep 21, 2005, 01:53 PM // 13:53

yeh improve HoH.
i agree with what navaros said
lol same i get better gold drops from chests also

Airsoft Tom · Sep 21, 2005, 01:59 PM // 13:59

I wouldn't even want to play there if that's all you get ;-)

Alathys Tylderaan · Sep 21, 2005, 02:06 PM // 14:06

6 fame for a hoh win?

that would mean you'd done... 4 rounds before that
at peak times, playing through all the maps, i got 24 fame for the first hoh win, which is a little more reasonable. I think the fame rewards are just fine, because it's pretty accurate to the amount of effort you've had to make so far.

Increasing the fame reward for the HoH map itself would create more and more teams doing the HoH jump on the first map. Keep fame rewards as they are.

The item drops however, I personally think the gold drops should be removed altogether, just drop sigils. You can't force an unidentified item to be 'good' and it all depends on what you define as 'good'. If you didn't like your drop, sell it to the merchant, 468g is better than nothing, isn't it?

I feel the sigil, team name across the game and the fame reward is quite enough for winning one battle.

Navaros · Sep 21, 2005, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by Alathys Tylderaan

6 fame for a hoh win?

that would mean you'd done... 4 rounds before that
at peak times, playing through all the maps, i got 24 fame for the first hoh win, which is a little more reasonable. I think the fame rewards are just fine, because it's pretty accurate to the amount of effort you've had to make so far.

Increasing the fame reward for the HoH map itself would create more and more teams doing the HoH jump on the first map. Keep fame rewards as they are.

The item drops however, I personally think the gold drops should be removed altogether, just drop sigils. You can't force an unidentified item to be 'good' and it all depends on what you define as 'good'. If you didn't like your drop, sell it to the merchant, 468g is better than nothing, isn't it?

I feel the sigil, team name across the game and the fame reward is quite enough for winning one battle.

well it's not my fault if the game makes me skip maps, so why should I be punished with pointless fame rewards for winning HoH?

HoH is supposed to be the ultimate battle

one should not only get 6 fame for winning the ultimate battle

as for saying the fame reward is accurate to the effort put in: not even. i'd get fame much faster by playing in a newbie IWAY PUG than i would taking the time to join, plan, and wait around for good players to join too in a really good HoH-winning party.

does that make sense? no. but that's how it is right now.

if they wanna remove item drops from HoH, then that's fine as long as everyone in the party gets a sigil every time

as far as them "not being able to force gold items to be good": sure they can. just mod the HoH code so that only gold items with the best mods drop in HoH. the devs know very well what the good mods are, and which the crap mods are. all they need to do is code the HoH items so that crap mods do not spawn on them

Divine Elemental · Sep 21, 2005, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by Navaros

well it's not my fault if the game makes me skip maps, so why should I be punished with pointless fame rewards for winning HoH?

HoH is supposed to be the ultimate battle

one should not only get 6 fame for winning the ultimate battle

as for saying the fame reward is accurate to the effort put in: not even. i'd get fame much faster by playing in a newbie IWAY PUG than i would taking the time to join, plan, and wait around for good players to join too in a really good HoH-wining party.

does that make sense? no. but that's how it is right now.

if they wanna remove item drops from HoH, then that's fine as long as everyone in the party gets a sigil every time

as far as them "not being able to force gold items to be good": sure they can. just mod the HoH code so that only gold items with the best mods drop in HoH. the devs know very well what the good mods are, and which the crap mods are. all they need to do is code the HoH items so that crap mods do not spawn on them

its perfect
when old times when hoh gave 40fame per win imo it was pretty.. hmm unbalanced now is balanced
how much team effort u do

Timoz · Sep 21, 2005, 03:42 PM // 15:42

ok.. so being honest here isnt so much of an 'ultimate battle' atm, the way it changes hands so much, but people are beginning to hold for longer.

My guild atm, the otehr night held from 7-10 times, (you tend to lose count whilst in there)

If your suggestions came true i'd then have a potential bonus of 500 fame, and hey, i wouldn't be complaining.. not to mention the 10 sigils or perfect weapons id have.. but people would jump so much and it really is a stupid suggestion. *no offence*

The drops, maybe they should only be sigils as most of the weapons i win in there are crappy and sold off to merchants... but some are near perfect. I don't see a problem with anything you've mentioend to be honest.

Now just to make it clear how this would work if your ideas would be implemented..

My guild can hold the hall pretty much until somebody errors out or we get seriously ganged up on.. this would mean hundreds of fame and so many sigils..
However, i do not agree with it... besides, the demand for sigils is not huge atm, they cant afford to give out more unless they plan a complete price drop in sigils, in which case who would want to win sigils at all if they were worthless?.. so if your idas came into place it would be easy fame and loads of worthless sigils to win.
You should work for your fame with the system like it is.

And the drops-leave them or introduce different stuff ( not sure what though )

Navaros · Sep 21, 2005, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by Timoz

You should work for your fame with the system like it is.

so what you are saying here is that winning HoH is not "work". winning HoH has no real significance at the moment. and i agree that it doesn't.

however, HoH is promoted as being the ultimate battle and winning it is supposed to be a great achievement

since that is not the case the moment, then that means something seriously needs fixing with the HoH rewards in order that the HoH rewards start to become on par with what winning the HoH is promoted as meaning.

Lord Bentam · Sep 21, 2005, 04:09 PM // 16:09

I agree, I won halls three times last night and got two crappy req 10+ fire wands. They were a embarrassment to sell to the merchant. -.-

Chad · Sep 21, 2005, 04:10 PM // 16:10

You know, I've won the Hall of Heroes countless times, and have never gotten one Sigil drop. Not one. I'm not even kidding either. My guild is tired of me whining, but...argh!! lol

I got a POS cane once and a Gold Armor that turned into a Major WS, but other than that I've got ziltch.

Anyway, back to the topic. Some better (or more) drops would definately be cool. Also I don't see what would be wrong with a small fame bonus for winning the Hall of Heroes (maybe 5 or 10 or something). But 100 fame would be rediculous.

Timoz · Sep 21, 2005, 04:31 PM // 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

so what you are saying here is that winning HoH is not "work". winning HoH has no real significance at the moment. and i agree that it doesn't.

however, HoH is promoted as being the ultimate battle and winning it is supposed to be a great achievement

since that is not the case the moment, then that means something seriously needs fixing with the HoH rewards in order that the HoH rewards start to become on par with what winning the HoH is promoted as meaning.

Well then i guess what i'm saying is you should work more for your fame.

As i've said in other threads, imo, hoh should be a one on one battle to test real skill in a one on one situation. I do agree the hall format needs to be changed seriously somehow.. nobody seems to care so much though.

It would be more of a test of skill if the ultimate battle were the two best teams ( teams who had won the most consecutive tomb matches) met each otehr in a one on one battle where there could be no ganking, hero blocking and interrupting, no ganging up on better teams.

The only problem with this is there would need to be a time limit on the battle as to have the halls often enough and not loads of teams waiting for hours in the vault.. i'd suggest soem kind of system with most kills at the end or something..

Fantus · Sep 22, 2005, 07:22 AM // 07:22

I agree on that. I don't even play Tombs but I feel that people who achieve something difficult like winning HoH should be properly rewarded. A gold item with perfect mods on it shouldn't be asked for too much I guess. The stuff on your screenshot is utter crap. I got way better items out of the chests.